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Meeting Summary
- Meeting started by Piñeiro at 16:00 CET.
- Meeting ended at 17:10 CET.
- Participants (Lines Said):
- Piñeiro - API (142)
- Joanie - joanie (92)
- Joseph - clown (51)
- Juanjo - jjmarin (34)
- Mike - mgorse(25)
- Magdalen - magpie (12)
Focus-tracking Deprecation
- Piñeiro still has pending that mail to gtk maintainers about retaking this.
Based on mozilla bug 960241 and associated discussion, Joanie is starting to think that Matthias is correct. What *exactly* the "spec" should look like remains up in the air. But being able to point to concrete ATK docs that clearly state expectations would be handy.
Wayland
- Piñeiro also needs to send an email resuming the discussion at the wayland-dev list.
Other Progress Towards 3.12
- Piñeiro was working on some minor clutter-bugs related to remove text (ie: alt+f2 dialog) pointed out by Joanie.
- Joanie is still doing the Great Orca Rewrite.
- Mike was commenting on some evolution and related bugs, hoping it would be useful, but sometimes it doesn't do any good to just write a comment.
- ACTION: Mike will ping aruiz re: evolution and gtkhtml accessibility bugs.
The pointer size is not configurable in GNOME 3. The main bug is 608231 where Allan Day asks the opinion of the a11y party. There is a person, Jason Steward, who volunteers to code the fix and is waiting for some confirmation.
BTW, Allan Day has some open questions in (duplicated) bug 665907 about the relation to the size with the HC theme then and about the color effects and the pointer.
ACTION: Juanjo will track bug 608231.
W3C Updates
- Reminder that there is a three day face-to-face ARIA meeting here in Toronto next week (Thu Jan 23 - Sat Jan 25).
- This week is the end of the "any last comments on the UAIG" before moving to the next step for publication.
As of Mon, the four features at risk will be considered and dealt with: http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-implementation/#sotd_atrisk
- Summarizing the probable outcomes:
- Feature one will be removed as there are no implementations.
- Feature two will likely be removed, unless Microsoft tells us otherwise.
- Feature three will stay — there are implemenations.
- Feature four: we are waiting on Apple to confirm that they implemented it. It will likely stay.
Marketing Updates
- No news this week.
Miscellaneous Time
- FOSDEM is coming.
- There will be GNOME activity there.
- This year Piñeiro will not be there to give the usual a11y related presentation. But is possible one co-worker will be there, and attend the after-fosdem libreoffice hackfest, probably doing a11y stuff.
Action Items
New
- Mike:
- Ping Alberto Ruiz about evolution and gtkhtml accessibility bugs.
- Juanjo:
Track bug 608231
Ongoing / Rolled-Over
- Joanie:
- Review the first public draft of ARIA 1.1 with specific attention to our current API.
- Do some testing and update the Evolution a11y bugs.
- Mike:
- Investigate D-Bus authentication and what can be done with it.
- Piñeiro:
- Create bugs and patches, hoping that gtk, clutter and gnome-shell developers will be more active looking at patches.
- Follow up with the discussion on the Wayland list.
- gnome-shell not accessible on wayland. Hacky solution available. Proper solution needed.
- Look at tooltip related code to see the possibility of adding mouse-in, mouse-out event at the a11y toolkit.
- Check with gtk and clutter developers to see what the plans are with respect to pango.