Meeting Summary

• Meeting started by Piñeiro at 16:05 CET.
• Meeting ended at 17:14 CET.
• Participants (Lines Said):
  • Piñeiro - API (129)
  • Joanie - joanie (126)
  • Joseph - clown (53)
  • Mike - mgorse(14)
  • Jasper - Jasper (12)

• Log

GSoC Ideas

• As discussed last meeting, we have officially added caret and focus tracking for gnome-shell to the list of GNOME's GSoC items.
• We got a response from Marina stating that Matthias thinks we should have a supporting gnome-shell team mentor.
• No one on the CC list (from gnome-shell) has replied yet.

• But the email seems to suggest that our idea is seen as good enough to be a real idea.

• Jasper suggested we ping rtcm. But if rtcm is unavailable, Jasper will volunteer to co-mentor.
• ACTION: Pineiro will ping rtcm.

Wayland

• Although Wayland was seen as the future for X, no real plans or deadline were set -- until now.
• Recently Matthias Clasen sent a email trying to start setting some deadlines.

• https://live.gnome.org/Wayland/

• https://live.gnome.org/Wayland/#Proposed_roadmap

• As you may recall, we created a bug about "start to check Wayland" some time ago.
• And we briefly discussed it at the 2011 hackfest, but it was basically skipped: First due to lack of knowledge; second, due to lack of deadlines.
• Now it is time to start again this.

• Piñeiro helped to fill accessibility section: Wayland/Gaps#Accessibility

• ACTION: Piñeiro will send a email to accessibility-dev, just in case that section needs to be filled.

• As you may recall, Piñeiro also sent an email a long time ago to X devel regarding some needs of accessibility (one was that snooping thing).

• Piñeiro's plan is to send a similar one to Wayland mailing list.
• ACTION: Piñeiro will compose a "what accessibility needs from Wayland, how to use it" email, ask for review, send to the Wayland Developer's list.
• Joanie wonders what we will do about at-spi2.
• ACTION: Joanie will take the summary from Pineiro and add it to the minutes.

W3C Update

• Testing browsers for compliance/conformance for ARIA 1.0 has sped up.
• Hoping to wrap that up in the next month or so.
• Tentative "release" of ARIA 1.0 would be June.

Marketing

• Juanjo was not present, so no updates.

Miscellaneous Time

• Joseph asked about the controller-for/controlled-by accessible relations.
• The team is perplexed.
• Speaking of nebulous API, the accessible text interface is crazy huge and confusing.
• We have discussed simplifying it before.
• Joanie thinks perhaps we should actually do that.

• http://asurkov.blogspot.ru/2013/03/an-easy-way-to-understanding-atk-text.html

Action Items

* Pineiro

• Ping rtcm to see if he'll be a supporting mentor for GSoC.
• Send a email to accessibility-dev, just in case the Wayland Accessibility section needs to be filled.
• Compose a "what accessibility needs from Wayland, how to use it" email, ask for review, send to the Wayland Developer's list.

Ongoing / Rolled-Over

• Joanie:
  • Do a full evaluation of the accessibility breakage in Evolution 3.6 and file bugs accordingly.
• Juanjo:
  • Take a look at the current a11y material in order to make an action plan.
• Piñeiro:
  • Ping GNOME designers, so hopefully some default keybinding will be available for 3.8.
  • Do a review with Orca to ensure that all the labels are in place, and probably a general review would be required.
  • Create some usability-configurability related bugs, using Bryen's mail as a starting point.

  • Update the AtkObject:children-changed documentation, as this could be also used on ATK implementors.