Meeting Summary

• Meeting started by Piñeiro at 14:34:33 UTC.
• Meeting ended at 15:38:40 UTC.
• Participants (Lines Said):
  • Piñeiro - API (96)
  • Javi - jhernandez|eee (86)
  • Joanie - joanie (84)
  • Joseph - clown (34)
  • Aline - alibezz (22)
  • Mike - mgorse (4)
  • Peter - korn (1)

• Log

Testing Distro

• Joseph provided a patch to orca to upgrade from using GConf to GSettings that fixed orca <-> gs-mag communication, but had the effect of revealing another bug (652500), a dbus exception which he is currently fixing.

• Joseph will provide a patch to fix bug 652500.

• Joanie will roll a new tarball from master once she has Joseph's patch.
• Javi will spin a new (and possibly the last accessibility-specific) spin of the testing distro once he has the new tarball from Joanie and any other required changes requested by our team.
• Javi is afraid about how to manage new code into new spins and he asked the a11y team if they all agree with only providing tarballs, not isolated patches.
• AGREED: the a11y team will provide only tarballs to Javi.

Gtk+ Deprecations

• https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2011-June/msg00078.html

• Some gtk widgets were deprecated: GtkHBox, GtkVBox. This affects current gail implementation, and in fact, there are some warnings related to that.
• Joanie opened bugs against Accerciser and Orca to do the needed changes, but this likely affects most of our team's modules.
• In the meantime, modules can use -UGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED.

• After porting to gtk3, Javi may count on Aline's help to fix bug 652485

• There are other deprecations, like in glib, but for the moment it is not clear if this will affect final apps or just base libraries.
• Conclusion: We will wait, and talk about it again in the future.

Action Items Update

• Javi's working on Matthias' reported issue. Javi had only a solid lock up with jhbuild, but he needs to investigate more about this, because isn't clear how to reproduce it.
• Mike hasn't yet added the "do nothing if no one is listening" to atk-bridge that he said he'd have done for 3.1.3.

Action Items

New

• Joseph will provide a patch to fix bug 652500.

• Joanie will roll a new tarball from master once she has Joseph's patch.
• Javi will spin a new (and possibly the last accessibility-specific) spin of the testing distro once he has the new tarball from Joanie and any other required changes requested by our team.

Ongoing / Rolled-Over

• Brian:
  • Send a mail summarizing his proposal regarding a testing-centered design.
  • Announce his Mago tests on the gnome-accessibility-devel list, and also create a README and INSTALL.
• Mike:
  • Modify atk-bridge not to listen for atk signals and send out events unless an AT is listening. (This will likely involve modifying at-spi2-core as well, to add a way of tracking active ATs.)
• Javi:
  • Investigate Matthias' statement that when he tries to run Accerciser in jhbuild on his system, it "locks up solid after a few minutes every single time."
• Joseph:
  • Investigate if it is feasible to call libatspi using javascript (ie: on gnome-shell)
• Piñeiro:
  • Work with Joanie on prioritizing the tasks identified during the ATK hackfest.
  • Review the documentation page.