Mar 27 12:46:03 everybody, feel free to add agenda items: http://live.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/MeetingAgenda is a bit empty right now :-) Mar 27 12:46:08 --> niko59-fr_kiba (~condor@211.233.146.195.dynamic.adsl.abo.nordnet.fr) has joined #foundation Mar 27 12:46:35 --> marina (~marina@c-24-61-12-69.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #foundation Mar 27 12:47:45 --> jcastro (~jcastro@ninkendo.org) has joined #foundation Mar 27 12:48:03 good morning! Mar 27 12:48:11 good afternoon :-) Mar 27 12:48:27 good evening :) Mar 27 12:48:39 marina: hey, good to see you! Mar 27 12:48:53 hi vuntz! Mar 27 12:49:30 morning, marina! Mar 27 12:49:43 morning, luis! Mar 27 13:01:43 --> You are now talking on #foundation Mar 27 13:01:43 --- Topic for #foundation is TODAY: Foundation IRC meeting, @16 UTC - Agenda: http://live.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/MeetingAgenda Mar 27 13:01:43 --- Topic for #foundation set by diegoe at Sat Feb 27 12:49:26 2010 Mar 27 13:01:57 and it's not too late to add topics: for this, please edit http://live.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/MembersAgenda Mar 27 13:02:38 --> zana (~zana@static-71-174-236-21.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #foundation Mar 27 13:02:47 so far, we have two topics: finding a better time for the meetings, and long-term plan for sysadmin Mar 27 13:03:38 (feel free to also mention topics you want to discuss here if you can't edit the wiki) Mar 27 13:03:48 stormy: I accidentally clashed with your edit, sorry Mar 27 13:04:04 woo, many more topics now Mar 27 13:04:30 --- Notify: KaL is online (irc.eagle.y.se). Mar 27 13:04:34 let's first work on a better time for meetings, to enable more people to attend Mar 27 13:04:51 fwiw, there's this proposal on the wiki: "Ubuntu rotates every six hours, making it inconvenient for everyone at some point" Mar 27 13:05:12 --> jrb (~jrb@static-71-174-236-21.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #foundation Mar 27 13:05:22 vuntz: maybe rotate every other month - jorge, yippi and I are all US eastern / central, maybe there's a night we can host one later our time that would be morning Asia / Pacific Mar 27 13:05:40 luis: I see my stuff. Did I clobber your edits? Mar 27 13:06:02 stormy: no, it seems that it is still there Mar 27 13:06:41 pcutler: this would mean losing european people, but we'll have to come up with something like this in all cases Mar 27 13:07:42 vuntz: I think the idea behind the Ubuntu plan is that you have to lose someone every time Mar 27 13:07:48 nod Mar 27 13:08:57 I like the idea of a 6-hour rotation, although I've never tried it Mar 27 13:09:10 eight hour might work for us too Mar 27 13:09:38 I like the idea of eight, once a quarter at minimum for participants Mar 27 13:09:43 it's just a matter of reminding people ahead of time because it would be hard for people to remember which rotation it is Mar 27 13:10:00 zana: right, but they need to be publicized well anyway :) Mar 27 13:10:36 (that reminds me I wanted to blog about this meeting to get the word on pgo...) Mar 27 13:11:00 every other month sounds good to me. Mar 27 13:12:06 8-hour rotation would mean something like: 0AM UTC, 8AM UTC, 4PM UTC. Mar 27 13:12:35 sounds reasonable Mar 27 13:12:48 any objection against trying this? Mar 27 13:12:56 let's go for it! Mar 27 13:13:05 +1 Mar 27 13:13:42 okay, no -1 => let's try it Mar 27 13:13:51 cool Mar 27 13:14:00 and we can move to the next topic: Mar 27 13:14:04 What is the plan for long-term sustainability of the new sysadmin? Mar 27 13:14:29 that was more a 'question from the membership' than a topic for actual discussion, I hope :) Mar 27 13:14:40 yeah :-) Mar 27 13:14:48 I'd like all staff to be covered by income we can definitely count on. Mar 27 13:14:52 So adboard fees. Mar 27 13:15:02 We doubled them this year and we are always looking to add more sponsors. Mar 27 13:15:17 Mar 27 13:15:21 <-- jwendell has quit (Ex-Chat) Mar 27 13:15:26 We are also growing Friends of GNOME support but I think most of the fundraising will be targetted. Mar 27 13:15:53 It's easier to do a fundraising drive for a specific new things (hackfest, sys admin, etc) that it is to support something you already have. Mar 27 13:16:06 <-- leonidas has quit (ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.2/20100316060223]) Mar 27 13:16:19 One thing I'd like to see is for everyone to be on the lookout for potential sponsors. Mar 27 13:16:21 how much of the support in the current drive has come in the form of recurring donations? Mar 27 13:16:34 We have around 100 subscribers. Mar 27 13:16:36 (from non-corporates, I mean) Mar 27 13:16:41 The drive has not gotten us a lot of new ones. Mar 27 13:16:53 I think we need to do a different type of campaign for that. Mar 27 13:17:00 perhaps we should advertise the subscriber option more? Mar 27 13:17:03 At the very least, the ruler should count subscribers, not $'s if that's what we want. Mar 27 13:17:10 and we may see a bit of fall off as we come up on the 1 year anniversary of J5's blog post that asked for help as people get their gifts Mar 27 13:17:33 pcutler: oh, are they not auto-renewing after the first year? Mar 27 13:17:41 They have to cancel. Mar 27 13:17:48 some don't, stormy's email a month or two ago mentioned we saw some slippage Mar 27 13:17:51 But some did after the first year. Mar 27 13:18:03 I'm a tiny bit worried come April / May, but hopeful Mar 27 13:18:48 If / when we do another campaign, I'd like to see us do a subscriber goal instead of a $ amount Mar 27 13:19:40 fwiw, in this case, we put a $ amount since we knew what we needed for this specific goal. It's really targetted Mar 27 13:19:44 yeah that sounds better long term Mar 27 13:20:01 We could do a subscriber campaign around GUADEC. Mar 27 13:20:05 Having the ruler really helped. Mar 27 13:20:22 I have no facts but it seems to me that many of the current donors are end users or at least not developers that I know. Mar 27 13:20:25 we should ask people to subscribe when they register for their badge or something Mar 27 13:20:29 (Developers are also giving very generously!) Mar 27 13:20:48 stormy: it might be good to ask that question when we get the subscription? (dev or user) Mar 27 13:20:54 So the ruler on gnome.org and pgo is reaching more people Mar 27 13:21:00 luis, we did a survey a while back. Mar 27 13:21:06 I'd like to repeat it every 12-18 months. Mar 27 13:21:11 i'd like to see more outreach to end users in the FoG program Mar 27 13:21:14 At that time something like 95% were not contributors. Mar 27 13:21:24 stormy: oh, it'd be nice to track if people are coming from the ruler, and if yes, from which website Mar 27 13:21:38 the ruler definitely seemed to help a lot Mar 27 13:21:44 Supposedly we can do this with our website metrics. Mar 27 13:21:51 I don't know the tool well enough yet to be able to report. Mar 27 13:21:52 --> zehrique (~zehrique@187.56.39.39) has joined #foundation Mar 27 13:21:59 * vuntz expects the ruler on the 2.30 release notes to also have some effect Mar 27 13:22:06 We are also adding code to know which ones come from Google ads. Mar 27 13:22:15 if I had a suggestion for http://www.gnome.org/friends/ who would I email? Mar 27 13:22:28 the marketing list, i'd think Mar 27 13:22:29 luis: friends@gnome.org or the mktg list Mar 27 13:22:38 I think friends goes to the board Mar 27 13:22:50 it would also be nice to have some new swag for the FoG program. Mar 27 13:23:12 perhaps we might get more people interested to donate if we refreshed the swag more frequently. how old is our current t-shirt? several years at least Mar 27 13:23:13 luis, the marketing list, not friends@gnome.org Mar 27 13:23:15 We'll be launching a new GNOME store to buy swag with 2.30 next week, and we hope to refresh / change designs quarterly Mar 27 13:23:22 you cannot buy the FoG t-shirt Mar 27 13:23:41 friends@gnome.org goes to Rosanna and me. It gets all the paypal info. Mar 27 13:23:45 right, i know you can't buy the new FoG t-shirt...i was just thinking we might want to consider a new design. Mar 27 13:23:49 stormy: OK, email sent Mar 27 13:23:55 when you see someone with a tshirt you don't know if they donated 4 years ago or last month Mar 27 13:24:00 It would also be good to encourage the use of social networking sites like identica to encourage giving, including GIVE buttons on people's websites and blogs. Mar 27 13:24:11 but if we had newer tshirts, then people would be able to express that they donated recently Mar 27 13:24:41 bkuhn: I think we have buttons that people can put on their website now Mar 27 13:24:43 bkuhn, we have badges people can use to promote http://www.gnome.org/friends/promote.html Mar 27 13:24:44 perhaps a sysadmin campagin specific fog tshirt Mar 27 13:24:52 or button, yes Mar 27 13:25:24 bkuhn: but if you didn't know about that, it means we need to advertize this more :-) Mar 27 13:25:38 i'd also like to see us give GNOME polo shirts out to people who run the EventBox Mar 27 13:25:47 vuntz: Well, I don't see the buttons used very many places. Mar 27 13:26:14 yippi: last time i priced embroidered polo shirts, they were ~$35 each Mar 27 13:26:44 they are a bit expensive, but having people at booths look professional would be worth it I think. we don't send the eventbox to that many people per year, do we? Mar 27 13:27:27 also, i'd think that many people who run the booth are repeat customers, who wouldn't need a shirt each time Mar 27 13:27:30 vuntz: I didn't even know about the buttons either Mar 27 13:27:42 * pcutler makes a note to blog about the buttons Mar 27 13:27:51 er, perhaps customers is probably not the word i meant, but you know what I mean Mar 27 13:27:55 they need to be linked from the main friends page, that's why no one sees them Mar 27 13:28:08 like after you donate it should encourage you to use the button Mar 27 13:28:18 jcastro: we do do that after you donate Mar 27 13:28:22 oh ok Mar 27 13:28:26 After you donate, there's a link to the buttons. We obviously need to make it more obvious. Mar 27 13:28:42 okay, let's try to note stay on this topic for the whole meeting :-) Mar 27 13:29:02 there was some useful stuff discussed. Do we have some concrete action items people want to take? Mar 27 13:29:07 yippi: I'll make a note to look into the event box and we can price it out for a next step Mar 27 13:29:23 yes, perhaps we could also get polo shirts at a discount if we bought in bulk Mar 27 13:29:33 or if polos are too expensive, at least nice tshirts Mar 27 13:29:43 I'll take a look at the buttons and mail the marketing list about placement on the site, and blog about it Mar 27 13:29:45 we should reward booth volunteers i think Mar 27 13:30:00 fwiw, in europe, we give free t-shirts to people helping at the booth Mar 27 13:30:09 (at least at fosdem) Mar 27 13:30:11 We were also including free tshirts. Mar 27 13:30:13 vuntz, that's good, but i think they should be included in the eventbox Mar 27 13:30:21 I assume that is still happening with Larry taking over. zana? Mar 27 13:30:39 as far as i know Mar 27 13:30:52 i gave Larry everything for events Mar 27 13:30:57 <-- tuxxy has quit (tuxxy) Mar 27 13:30:58 Did you send him enough shirts? Mar 27 13:30:59 does larry have a stock of tshirts? Mar 27 13:31:00 but I think he's just shipping from one event to the next Mar 27 13:31:08 i don't think he's checking inventory Mar 27 13:31:09 Nevermind, let's discuss this at the marketing meeting! Mar 27 13:31:11 (pcutler: good. One AI for you, I love this :-)) Mar 27 13:31:18 i gave him what i had left of the old shirts; don't remember now how many Mar 27 13:31:26 vuntz: I've got two! Mar 27 13:31:37 * stormy invites everyone who is interested in this conversation to attend the marketing IRC meetings too! Mar 27 13:31:46 stormy: good point Mar 27 13:32:01 any other concrete AI that are coming out of this discussion? Mar 27 13:32:02 another action item, need to schedule that marketing IRC meeting, heh Mar 27 13:32:09 or shall we move to the next agenda item? Mar 27 13:32:26 vuntz: let's very briefly talk about GNOME 3.0 marketing Mar 27 13:32:41 pcutler: that's on the agenda too Mar 27 13:32:45 so let's do it now, yeah Mar 27 13:32:47 yeah, thought it was a good segue Mar 27 13:32:48 What is the plan for marketing GNOME 3.0? Mar 27 13:32:50 so a couple things: Mar 27 13:32:52 maybe we could just give people who run the event box a special code so they can purchase a polo or tshirt directly without it needing to be in the box Mar 27 13:33:04 and have it charge back to us Mar 27 13:33:17 1 - at the marketing hackfest last November, we laid a lot of the groundwork, and agreed on our target audience for 3.0, a theme, and some of the things we want to do Mar 27 13:33:18 rather than trying to include it in the box physically Mar 27 13:33:38 2 - we'll be having a hackfest in Zaragoza, Spain the first week of May to do 3.0 specific work Mar 27 13:34:05 such as a 3.0 website, video campaigns being led by Jason Clinton, and putting together materials such as presentations, artwork that can be used Mar 27 13:34:21 one of our goals is to make it easy to co-brand / re-brand the materials so our downstream partners can use them too Mar 27 13:34:26 at the last marketing hackfest, i felt it would have been more productive if there had been more graphic designers attending. perhaps we can invite more for the next one. Mar 27 13:34:40 yes, we're trying. Andreas is coming, so that will help Mar 27 13:35:05 a lot of it is still in the planning stages, so now is a great time for people to join the marketing list and volunteer to help out. We need all kinds of help :) Mar 27 13:36:12 wiki page for the Zaragoza hackfest: http://live.gnome.org/Hackfests/Marketing-2010-05 Mar 27 13:36:14 that's my little speech on marketing, what kind of questions are there? Mar 27 13:37:01 pcutler: can we assume that, after the hackfest, all the planning for marketing will be done, and what will be left will "only" be execution? Mar 27 13:37:14 or are we already at this stage? Mar 27 13:37:28 yes, I would hope so. "only" execution. :) Mar 27 13:37:36 is marketing ever done? Mar 27 13:37:55 yippi: marketing for 3.0, I mean Mar 27 13:37:55 for example, on the video stuff, i had a conversation with jason last week, and I'd like to do as much planning on that before hand (applications highlighed in the video, storyboarding, etc) Mar 27 13:38:38 are we planning to only make training/promo videos for YouTube, or also a possible TV ad? Mar 27 13:38:40 there are some concerns about 3.0 is, especially after the UX hackfest, but we'll be talking through that this month Mar 27 13:38:47 PublicTV allows charities to run ads for free Mar 27 13:39:00 yippi: I think Jason is planning on promo videos for GNOME Miro community, YouTube, etc Mar 27 13:39:01 and many are not particularly hi-fidelity Mar 27 13:39:11 that's too bad. a tv spot would be fun Mar 27 13:39:17 especially since its free Mar 27 13:39:20 similar to the Google Chrome / Nexus One short 1 minute videos Mar 27 13:39:27 pcutler: Is there a concise definition of what the marketing team is trying to accomplish somewhere? Mar 27 13:39:59 owen: That's a great question. I'd say no at this point. Mar 27 13:40:09 I have some time next week, I can work with the marketing team and get that done Mar 27 13:40:28 pcutler: it seems hard to answer a question like "should we try create a public tv spot" without that Mar 27 13:40:45 * stormy wants to thank luis for being our latest Friend of GNOME subscriber! Thanks, luis! Mar 27 13:41:00 :) Mar 27 13:41:08 * luis is sort of embarassed I haven't done it earlier Mar 27 13:41:37 --> baptistemm (~baptiste@2.100.67-86.rev.gaoland.net) has joined #foundation Mar 27 13:41:41 anything else on the marketing? Mar 27 13:42:03 hello, sorry for the late Mar 27 13:42:17 baptistemm: it's okay, more french mafia is good, even when late ;-) Mar 27 13:42:26 so let's move to the next item Mar 27 13:42:29 "Code of Conduct required for all members - will be voted upon on Thursday " Mar 27 13:43:20 it is really required for all members, or just those who sign it and new members? Mar 27 13:44:51 so, quick summary: this was an idea the board discussed a few months ago. And the original discussion about this on foundation-list lead to an unrelated looooong thread in December. But we think it's still something important, so we want to move forward and just do it Mar 27 13:45:19 yes, and we also reworded things quite a bit based on foundation member and advisory board member comments Mar 27 13:45:24 yippi: would be all members in the long term, but this can only be enforced on renewals for existing members, imho Mar 27 13:46:30 no question on this? Are people all happy with this idea? Mar 27 13:47:17 cool, no question. Makes things easier ;-) Mar 27 13:47:19 seems reasonable to me Mar 27 13:47:44 so it'll be discussed and voted during the next board meeting, on Thursday Mar 27 13:47:51 --> shaunm (~shaunm@c-98-212-133-244.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has joined #foundation Mar 27 13:47:54 next item: "GUADEC schedule" Mar 27 13:48:10 Is someone from the GUADEC planning team here? Mar 27 13:48:11 stormy: I guess this is about the slight change in the schedule? Mar 27 13:48:19 I just wanted to let people know the schedule is a bit different this year. Mar 27 13:48:20 * owen sort of wonders if would have helped at all in any of the places we've had CoC problems, and doesn't really imagine it would have Mar 27 13:48:56 Monday and Tuesday will be more of unconference days that can be scheduled via the wiki. Mar 27 13:48:57 it helps to have a policy to refer to afterwords, then people at least understand what they've done wrong Mar 27 13:49:09 Wed-Fri will be the core conference with scheduled talks and keynotes. Mar 27 13:49:18 There will be training on Monday and Tuesday as well. Mar 27 13:49:27 and one would hope a policy proactively helps people to consider such concerns and reduces the frequency of such issues Mar 27 13:49:27 And a government focused half day, most likely on Tuesday. Mar 27 13:50:12 yippi: I was more referring to a need to "sign" it, rather than the existence of the policy. And if people sign it, does that prevent us from changing it later without having people resign? Mar 27 13:50:34 (sorry,don't want to derail the meeting which had moved on) Mar 27 13:51:01 wants to thank jcastro for being our latest Friend of GNOME subscriber! Thanks, jcastro! (Stormy likes this trend!) Mar 27 13:51:17 stormy: I used to give yearly but now I will sub too! Mar 27 13:51:23 cool! Mar 27 13:51:31 owen: (for me, the main point is that it's a way to tell people that what's inside the code of conduct are values shared in our community, and not just by some people) Mar 27 13:51:36 Subscribers are nice because it's regular donations we can count on for things like sys admin. Mar 27 13:52:01 * vuntz thinks we should do meetings everyday just to get new subscribers ;-) Mar 27 13:52:12 stormy: anything else you want to mention about guadec? Mar 27 13:52:35 nope, not if there are not any questions. Mar 27 13:52:44 Hopefully everyone submitted lots of great talk proposals! Mar 27 13:52:55 :-) Mar 27 13:53:13 * bkuhn did hopefully, but late because he's lame. :) Mar 27 13:53:14 so, let's move to another agenda item Mar 27 13:53:22 "What are our plans for the Outreach Program for Women? GSoC application process is March 29 - April 9 and they should be coordinated." Mar 27 13:53:37 marina: want to say a few words on this? Mar 27 13:54:31 yep, so I wanted to know if we have funding for a specific number of women, in which case we should set up our own application process and encourage women to apply for both OPW internships and GSoC Mar 27 13:54:44 otherwise we should just encourage women to apply for GSoC Mar 27 13:55:09 We planned to fund the outreach program for women like we did last time Mar 27 13:55:12 with donations from companies Mar 27 13:55:17 (by e-mailing gnome women list, Women in GNOME Facebook group, and several women that have contacted us expressing interest Mar 27 13:55:21 So far we only have funding for one student. Mar 27 13:55:30 But jcastro just sent out a new call for funding Mar 27 13:55:43 But I think we should also strongly encourage them to apply for GSoC. Mar 27 13:55:52 Perhaps they could apply for both and we can coordinate? Mar 27 13:55:54 I think it is very important to encourage women to apply for GSoC Mar 27 13:55:59 nod Mar 27 13:56:07 marina: did you chat with rubenv and other GSoC admins? Mar 27 13:56:15 stormy: i thought we paid for last time with the mentorship fees we get from google for the GSOC? Mar 27 13:56:24 and it would be good to know our plans for OPW internships before we make such encouragements Mar 27 13:56:43 I thought Google kicked in specifically for the women's program. Mar 27 13:56:44 zana: hrm, I think we had some specific donation from Google for it Mar 27 13:56:52 --> crevette (~baptiste@2.100.67-86.rev.gaoland.net) has joined #foundation Mar 27 13:56:55 We had funding for 3 (maybe from GSoC) and then they funded 3 more. Mar 27 13:57:05 vuntz: we started with using the mentorship fees, then google found out and doubled it for that Mar 27 13:57:06 there is a gsoc meeting going on right now Mar 27 13:57:09 Google is the one that gave us the funding for the one student this year, fyi. Mar 27 13:57:11 marina: (sorry, I xas disconnected) there is also debian-women list IIRC, you can perhaps contact them (if you didn't already) Mar 27 13:57:18 vuntz: not yet, but I suppose there wouldn't mind getting a couple extra applications from women :) what do you think we should discuss? Mar 27 13:58:05 crevette: yes, good idea, we can cross-post it to women list for various distributions Mar 27 13:58:09 marina: oh, nothing specific. Just for the coordination :-) Mar 27 13:59:12 the application form that was used in 2006 is here: http://projects.gnome.org/outreach/women/2006/apply Mar 27 13:59:30 marina: so, do you need help for the next steps? Or is everything on track? Mar 27 14:01:04 vuntz: yes, I need to know whether to resurrect this form and have our own application process for a specific number of participants or whether to e-mail everyone encouraging them to apply for GSoC and update the wording on the outreach page Mar 27 14:01:24 marina: I think we want to encourage the women to apply to GSoC first Mar 27 14:01:43 and then do our own application process Mar 27 14:01:54 I like vuntz's idea. Mar 27 14:02:17 vuntz: when do you think we'll know if we want to do our own application process? Mar 27 14:02:18 yeah that makes sense Mar 27 14:02:32 * vuntz looks at the GSoC timeline Mar 27 14:02:54 Wouldn't we want to do ours no matter what? Mar 27 14:03:04 We have funding for at least one more and hopefully will get more. Mar 27 14:03:12 marina: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/timeline Mar 27 14:03:22 stormy: if we have funding for a meaningful number of people Mar 27 14:03:26 marina: so I'd say mid-April Mar 27 14:03:52 marina: although we'd want to make it public only when Google announces which students are selected for GSoC (April 26th) Mar 27 14:04:13 (meaningful for setting up our own application process, contacting universities, and getting a 100 applicants like we did last time) Mar 27 14:04:30 stormy: oh, I think we should do ours anyway. But maybe not talk about it too much while applications for GSoC are still open Mar 27 14:04:31 marina, I agree. Mar 27 14:04:45 And I am hopeful about funding. Mar 27 14:05:12 <-- baptistemm has quit (Ping timeout: 600 seconds) Mar 27 14:05:20 <-- N_Nick has quit () Mar 27 14:05:30 vuntz: so you see it more as a way of getting more women to participate in GNOME if we don't get enough GSoC women participants? Mar 27 14:05:34 --> crevette1 (~baptiste@2.100.67-86.rev.gaoland.net) has joined #foundation Mar 27 14:05:37 are we doing a WSOP again? Mar 27 14:05:47 marina: remove the "if" :-) Mar 27 14:05:57 rubenv: we are thinking about it Mar 27 14:06:16 vuntz: why?! we should be able to do better with women participants in GSoC! Mar 27 14:06:42 there are also threads like this one: http://geekfeminism.org/2010/03/23/gf-classifieds-google-summer-of-code-edition/#comments Mar 27 14:06:53 marina: well, I hope we'll do better, but I don't think it'll be perfect either. Mar 27 14:06:55 so let us know if you need anything from the GSoC admins Mar 27 14:06:59 We can get lots of women in GSoC and still do a Women's outreach. Mar 27 14:07:17 so our plan is to announce our women's outreach program after GSoC? Mar 27 14:08:01 vuntz / stormy / rubenv : ok, so I'll coordinate with you guys in the next couple days with a GSoC application encouragement to be sent to all the women forums, and in particular whether or not we mention a possibility of OPW there at all Mar 27 14:08:05 <-- abyteofozz has quit (abyteofozz) Mar 27 14:08:05 then we'll see Mar 27 14:08:11 sounds good Mar 27 14:08:17 perfect Mar 27 14:08:50 we're already out of time, but very quickly, one last thing Mar 27 14:09:05 rubenv: I think you're still in the GSoC meeting, but is there anything important you want to mention about GSoC? Mar 27 14:09:51 vuntz, nothing in particular besides a short status update along the lines of "all ok / what we are doing and planning" Mar 27 14:10:40 okay :-) Let's just see if there's any GSoC-related question? Mar 27 14:10:56 <-- crevette has quit (Ping timeout: 600 seconds) Mar 27 14:11:25 no question, good Mar 27 14:11:52 so we can close the meeting, without being too late ;-) Mar 27 14:11:58 thanks everybody Mar 27 14:12:26 thanks! Mar 27 14:12:38 so the next meeting will be on April 24th, at 0 AM UTC, if I'm not mistaken! Mar 27 14:12:49 :) Mar 27 14:12:50 thanks! Mar 27 14:13:03 Ok, thanks. Mar 27 14:13:06 See you all then! Mar 27 14:13:23 apologies to stormy for skipping the "Representing GNOME at events, ideas for encouraging more people to do that?" topic, but 1 hour is short Mar 27 14:13:40 people should feel free to stay and discuss it if they're interested, obviously (or this can be an item for the next meeting) Mar 27 14:14:31 vuntz, i just sent you my notes for doing minutes. Can you publish them? Mar 27 14:14:52 they probably need some review to make sure i captured things properly. Mar 27 14:15:06 yippi: well, maybe send to foundation-list for review? Mar 27 14:15:15 * vuntz will be away most of the week-end Mar 27 14:15:24 oh, and if someone has a log, feel free to add it to http://live.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes (see the end) Mar 27 14:15:50 do we give additional gifts to people who stay subscribed for a second year? Mar 27 14:16:02 jrb: no, afaik Mar 27 14:16:07 they are still quite rough, i sent it to board-list for the board to review before we publish them. Mar 27 14:16:13 (just saw dcm wondering about that on twitter last night) Mar 27 14:16:18 gpoo: should we? Mar 27 14:16:52 --> jjmarin (~jjmarin@84.125.151.195.dyn.user.ono.com) has joined #foundation Mar 27 14:17:07 jrb: we should have a strategy to keep subscribers on board Mar 27 14:19:25 <-- crevette1 (~baptiste@2.100.67-86.rev.gaoland.net) has left #foundation Mar 27 14:22:49 <-- zehrique (~zehrique@187.56.39.39) has left #foundation Mar 27 14:23:33 jrb, zana and I discussed it. Mar 27 14:23:35 I think we should Mar 27 14:25:37 <-- jjardon has quit (Bye!)