1 16:05:57 <API> #startmeeting
   2 16:05:57 <tota11y> Meeting started Thu Jul  4 16:05:57 2013 CET.  The chair is API. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
   3 16:05:57 <tota11y> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
   4 16:06:02 <API> #topic GSoC updates
   5 16:06:22 <Magpie> shall i go ?
   6 16:06:42 <clown> sure
   7 16:07:10 <Magpie> #info Magdalen stopped work with the tracker last friday and waits for mentors confirm whether or not a patch can be made from it.
   8 16:07:30 <Magpie> #info Magdalen has been using g-ir-doc-tools to make documentation for atspi in javascript
   9 16:07:44 <Magpie> #info Magdalen is hosting the files for times when the documents need to be discussed with mentors
  10 16:08:07 <Magpie> #link http://gnome.thismagpie.com/atspi
  11 16:08:23 <Magpie> #info Magdalen filed bug 703422 about documentation for atspi in javascript which API reviewed and spoke to her about
  12 16:08:23 <tota11y> 04Bug https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=703422 normal, Normal, ---, liyuan, UNCONFIRMED, Please add atspi to the gjs API
  13 16:08:46 <Magpie> #info Magdalen started working on magnifier.js
  14 16:09:12 <Magpie> #link https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell/plain/js/ui/magnifier.js
  15 16:09:18 <Magpie> #info Magdalen asked Joseph to break magnifier up so that each name space has its own .js file because she is getting confused by the amount of stuff in there but Joseph said doing that would be too much of a distraction.
  16 16:09:31 <Magpie> #info Magdalen already edited gsettings before speaking to Joseph about it
  17 16:09:51 <Magpie> oh nd one more
  18 16:10:33 <Magpie> #info Magdalen made a video for mentors to check focus/select tracking is doing because she could not be sure what they meant about the log from focus/select
  19 16:10:38 <Magpie> ok thats all i think
  20 16:10:50 <clown> I'll add a little more.
  21 16:10:53 <Magpie> unless joseph has more to say
  22 16:11:40 <clown> #info Joseph worked with Magdalen at the end of last week to check the tracker code and its logs to make sure it was doing the right thing.
  23 16:12:17 <clown> #info  Joseph still needs to look at the final code on Magdalen's github, but he believes they arrived at the point of making a patch.
  24 16:12:59 <clown> #info Joseph sent out email about next steps vis-a-vis integrating the tracker with the magnifier.
  25 16:13:28 <clown> #info Joseph's advice is to leave the gsettings aspect aside for the moment, but notest that it will need to be address as part of this GSoC.
  26 16:13:37 <clown> s/notest/notes/
  27 16:13:52 <clown> s/to be address/to be addressed/
  28 16:14:03 <Magpie> #link : https://github.com/thisMagpie/GSoC/blob/master/javascript/focusCaretTracker.js
  29 16:14:04 <clown> I think that's it.
  30 16:14:12 <Magpie> ones more thing
  31 16:14:13 * clown thanks magpie
  32 16:15:12 <Magpie> #info Magdalen also added jhbuild configurations to github https://github.com/thisMagpie/GSoC/tree/master/JHbuild
  33 16:15:17 <clown> one more thing from me as well...
  34 16:16:36 <clown> #info regarding spliiting up magnifier.js into separate files, not only is it a distraction, but it is wrong.  It is wrong because it fragments the "Magnifier" namespace.
  35 16:16:45 <Magpie> #link https://github.com/thisMagpie/GSoC/tree/master/JHbuild
  36 16:17:07 * clown waves to jjmarin
  37 16:17:14 <Magpie> hi jjmarin
  38 16:17:15 <clown> (done)  questions? doubts?
  39 16:17:22 * clown waves to jhernandez
  40 16:17:24 <Magpie> hi jhernandez
  41 16:17:27 <jhernandez> hi all!
  42 16:17:29 <jhernandez> :]
  43 16:17:33 <jjmarin> hi all !!!
  44 16:17:38 <jhernandez> (and sorry for being late)
  45 16:17:43 <jjmarin> me too :)
  46 16:18:00 <Magpie> i think clown i need to ask about that outside meeting
  47 16:18:07 <clown> sure
  48 16:18:15 <joanie> I have a question (not on what was said so far, but on this topic)
  49 16:18:30 <Magpie> ok
  50 16:18:40 <joanie> #info Joanie is wondering if anyone knows of the top of their head when the evaluations are due?
  51 16:18:46 <joanie> if not I can look
  52 16:18:52 <joanie> there's been nothing said on the list
  53 16:18:53 <clown> not me.
  54 16:18:57 <joanie> but I know the date is approaching
  55 16:19:04 <joanie> it's before guadec
  56 16:19:11 <joanie> jjmarin: you happen to know?
  57 16:19:24 <Magpie> good question
  58 16:19:35 <Magpie> it is getting close
  59 16:19:49 <joanie> #action Joanie will look for the date and procedure for mid-point GSoC evaluations
  60 16:19:52 <jjmarin> I don't know neither. We should ask Marina I guess
  61 16:19:54 <joanie> Magpie: we'll take care of it
  62 16:19:58 <joanie> you focus on code :)
  63 16:20:16 <joanie> anyhoo I'm done
  64 16:20:20 <Magpie> thanks joanie
  65 16:20:41 <joanie> i'm not done
  66 16:20:46 <Magpie> one more
  67 16:21:01 <joanie> Magpie: go on
  68 16:21:03 <Magpie> i was wondering if i should go to gnome-shell meetings as well?
  69 16:21:13 <joanie> Magpie: no
  70 16:21:17 <joanie> i mean, you can
  71 16:21:20 <joanie> if they have them
  72 16:21:23 <Magpie> ok
  73 16:21:25 <API> Magpie, afaik, they don't have gnome-shell meetings
  74 16:21:29 <API> and in any case
  75 16:21:31 <joanie> but I don't see what that would accomplish
  76 16:21:37 <API> the only people working on the magnifier
  77 16:21:43 <API> is you and clown
  78 16:21:44 * clown worries that it would another distraction, rabbit hole, or some such.
  79 16:21:58 * joanie nods
  80 16:22:08 <Magpie> ok
  81 16:22:27 <joanie> #info According to http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2013, mid-term evaluations can be submitted starting 29 july
  82 16:22:35 <joanie> #info the deadline is 2 August
  83 16:22:37 <Magpie> i just thought i should check
  84 16:22:59 <Magpie> thanks joanie
  85 16:23:06 * Magpie panic
  86 16:23:21 * clown mild panic
  87 16:23:22 <joanie> #info Joanie will be traveling on the 29th so she'll either submit it later, or she'll ask another team member to do so
  88 16:23:34 <clown> I go on vacation around that time.
  89 16:23:38 <joanie> #action Joanie will lead the coordination and filling out of evaluations
  90 16:23:59 * clown owes joanie a hot fudge sundae.
  91 16:24:07 <joanie> clown: because I'm heading to Europe on the 28th and wrapping up a company project, I'll be starting a bit sooner
  92 16:24:17 <clown> sooner is better.
  93 16:24:23 <joanie> i.e. I'd like to have it ready to submit the minute we can
  94 16:24:26 * joanie nods
  95 16:24:30 <joanie> I'll get on it
  96 16:24:37 <Magpie> me too
  97 16:24:41 <joanie> ok, I am done for realz this time
  98 16:24:47 <joanie> sorry and thanks
  99 16:25:24 <Magpie> i will probably need to be clear on what you expect from that
 100 16:25:36 <joanie> Magpie: possibly nothing, but I'll let you know
 101 16:25:43 <joanie> I think it's stuff your mentors need to do; not you
 102 16:25:46 <Magpie> thank you
 103 16:25:50 <joanie> you must just stay on track
 104 16:25:52 <joanie> keep working
 105 16:26:07 <Magpie> ok
 106 16:26:07 <jjmarin> +1
 107 16:26:08 <joanie> and answer questions if we have them (e.g. links to include as supporting material)
 108 16:26:13 * API wondering if it is time for his usual "ok, more questions, doubts"?
 109 16:26:18 * clown notices gloob lurking in the corner.
 110 16:26:20 <joanie> API it is that time
 111 16:26:23 <joanie> really?
 112 16:26:26 <joanie> gloob: !!!!!
 113 16:26:29 <gloob> o/
 114 16:26:32 <joanie> We miss you Ale
 115 16:26:36 <API> ok, more questions, doubts, random pings to gloob?
 116 16:26:36 <gloob> :-(
 117 16:26:44 <joanie> We're happy to see you
 118 16:26:45 <gloob> I'm just lurking
 119 16:26:45 <joanie> :)
 120 16:26:51 <gloob> same here
 121 16:26:52 <Magpie> gloob: ping
 122 16:26:53 <jjmarin> ping random to gloob :)
 123 16:27:00 <API> #topic W3C updates
 124 16:27:03 <API> clown, ?
 125 16:27:39 <clown> #info Due to the natioinal holidays here in Canada and the U.S,  meetings have been cancelled.
 126 16:27:52 <clown> that is, "no news".
 127 16:28:42 <API> clown, ok, thanks
 128 16:28:45 <clown> wlcm
 129 16:28:52 <API> #topic Marketing
 130 16:28:53 <API> jjmarin, ?
 131 16:30:01 <jjmarin> #info Juanjo sent an email to the anaconda developers to inform the about out a11y BoF in GUADEC
 132 16:30:13 <jjmarin> no replies yet
 133 16:30:21 <jjmarin> and nothing more from me
 134 16:30:43 <API> well, luckly for everybody, today will be quick
 135 16:30:46 <API> because ...
 136 16:30:50 <API> #topic Miscellaneous time
 137 16:30:56 <API> so, something not scheduled to mention?
 138 16:31:03 <clown> I watned to note that...
 139 16:31:18 <clown> I have now been assigned to work on Cloud4All
 140 16:31:19 <joanie> yeah
 141 16:31:26 <joanie> interesting
 142 16:31:27 <jhernandez> clown: ftw!
 143 16:31:29 <clown> I will be working iwth jhernandez.
 144 16:31:37 <clown> and others.
 145 16:31:42 <clown> But, jhernandez from this group.
 146 16:31:44 <clown> (done)
 147 16:32:09 <clown> jhernandez:  you flatter me  :-)
 148 16:32:19 <Magpie> clown: this http://www.cloud4all.info ?
 149 16:32:30 <jhernandez> heh
 150 16:32:32 * jjmarin wonders if clown knows another jhernandez from other group
 151 16:32:34 <clown> actually, I'm not sure, Magpie.
 152 16:32:43 * clown looks
 153 16:32:50 <clown> yup, that's it.
 154 16:32:56 <Magpie> what will you do?
 155 16:33:15 <clown> I'll be working on the linux/gnome reference implementation.
 156 16:33:20 <clown> specfically
 157 16:33:37 <clown> the device/sottware capabilities "discoverer".
 158 16:33:44 <clown> *software
 159 16:34:08 <clown> jjmarin, I thought it was the same jhernandez.
 160 16:34:18 <clown> jhernandez, is that you?  :-)
 161 16:34:20 <jhernandez> clown: yeah, this is our very first need I think
 162 16:34:28 <Magpie> so you use it to find accessible software?
 163 16:34:30 <jjmarin> :)
 164 16:34:34 <jhernandez> clown: and yes, I still think I am jhernandez
 165 16:34:34 <jhernandez> :P
 166 16:34:35 <Magpie> i mean people not you
 167 16:34:57 <jhernandez> well
 168 16:35:01 <clown> Magpie:  people (users) have preferences...
 169 16:35:08 <jhernandez> there is a video about the idea
 170 16:35:24 <clown> the system is supposed to match those preferences with what is available on the system.
 171 16:35:28 <API> fwiw, evil apinheiro talking
 172 16:35:40 <clown> go ahead API.
 173 16:35:46 <clown> you evil skeletor.
 174 16:35:47 <API> miscellaneous time is not the place for a full description of cloud4all ;)
 175 16:35:54 <clown> good point.
 176 16:36:01 <gloob> xD
 177 16:36:25 <Magpie> sorry API
 178 16:36:29 <API> mainly because this point seems somewhat unprepared to me
 179 16:36:32 <API> Magpie, no problem
 180 16:36:35 <API> is fine to ask
 181 16:36:47 <API> I just wanted to stop to escalate too much
 182 16:37:02 <API> clown, jhernandez if in the future you want a item on the agenda
 183 16:37:08 <API> ask for that, and prepare the point ;)
 184 16:37:12 <API> but not today
 185 16:37:12 <clown> kind of you to offer, API
 186 16:37:14 <API> anyway
 187 16:37:22 <clown> well it is misc. for today.
 188 16:37:23 <API> thanks for the update and quick summary
 189 16:37:30 <jhernandez> API: of course
 190 16:37:39 <API> any other misc stuff to mention about?
 191 16:37:56 <Magpie> just got my passport
 192 16:38:37 <Magpie> so i can come to guadec and be let in now :)
 193 16:39:00 <Magpie> the doc team asked me to help their stool
 194 16:39:18 * clown sadly notest that "stool" has many meanings.
 195 16:39:41 * API only knew about the bad ones, just checked on wordreference that had others
 196 16:39:44 * jjmarin though is was a typo :)
 197 16:39:54 <API> anyway jokes apart
 198 16:40:06 <API> good to see that no problems with the passport
 199 16:40:18 <Magpie> ha
 200 16:40:19 <API> and as nobody is saying anything else
 201 16:40:26 <API> lets finish the meeting with good news
 202 16:40:30 <tota11y> API: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.
 203 16:40:32 <API> ups
 204 16:40:35 <API> #stopmeeting
 205 16:40:36 <jhernandez> ... and go for a beer!
 206 16:40:38 <Magpie> thanks API
 207 16:40:40 <API> #endmeeting