16:05:57 <API> #startmeeting
16:05:57 <tota11y> Meeting started Thu Jul  4 16:05:57 2013 CET.  The chair is API. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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16:06:02 <API> #topic GSoC updates
16:06:22 <Magpie> shall i go ?
16:06:42 <clown> sure
16:07:10 <Magpie> #info Magdalen stopped work with the tracker last friday and waits for mentors confirm whether or not a patch can be made from it.
16:07:30 <Magpie> #info Magdalen has been using g-ir-doc-tools to make documentation for atspi in javascript
16:07:44 <Magpie> #info Magdalen is hosting the files for times when the documents need to be discussed with mentors
16:08:07 <Magpie> #link http://gnome.thismagpie.com/atspi
16:08:23 <Magpie> #info Magdalen filed bug 703422 about documentation for atspi in javascript which API reviewed and spoke to her about
16:08:23 <tota11y> 04Bug https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=703422 normal, Normal, ---, liyuan, UNCONFIRMED, Please add atspi to the gjs API
16:08:46 <Magpie> #info Magdalen started working on magnifier.js
16:09:12 <Magpie> #link https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell/plain/js/ui/magnifier.js
16:09:18 <Magpie> #info Magdalen asked Joseph to break magnifier up so that each name space has its own .js file because she is getting confused by the amount of stuff in there but Joseph said doing that would be too much of a distraction.
16:09:31 <Magpie> #info Magdalen already edited gsettings before speaking to Joseph about it
16:09:51 <Magpie> oh nd one more
16:10:33 <Magpie> #info Magdalen made a video for mentors to check focus/select tracking is doing because she could not be sure what they meant about the log from focus/select
16:10:38 <Magpie> ok thats all i think
16:10:50 <clown> I'll add a little more.
16:10:53 <Magpie> unless joseph has more to say
16:11:40 <clown> #info Joseph worked with Magdalen at the end of last week to check the tracker code and its logs to make sure it was doing the right thing.
16:12:17 <clown> #info  Joseph still needs to look at the final code on Magdalen's github, but he believes they arrived at the point of making a patch.
16:12:59 <clown> #info Joseph sent out email about next steps vis-a-vis integrating the tracker with the magnifier.
16:13:28 <clown> #info Joseph's advice is to leave the gsettings aspect aside for the moment, but notest that it will need to be address as part of this GSoC.
16:13:37 <clown> s/notest/notes/
16:13:52 <clown> s/to be address/to be addressed/
16:14:03 <Magpie> #link : https://github.com/thisMagpie/GSoC/blob/master/javascript/focusCaretTracker.js
16:14:04 <clown> I think that's it.
16:14:12 <Magpie> ones more thing
16:14:13 * clown thanks magpie
16:15:12 <Magpie> #info Magdalen also added jhbuild configurations to github https://github.com/thisMagpie/GSoC/tree/master/JHbuild
16:15:17 <clown> one more thing from me as well...
16:16:36 <clown> #info regarding spliiting up magnifier.js into separate files, not only is it a distraction, but it is wrong.  It is wrong because it fragments the "Magnifier" namespace.
16:16:45 <Magpie> #link https://github.com/thisMagpie/GSoC/tree/master/JHbuild
16:17:07 * clown waves to jjmarin
16:17:14 <Magpie> hi jjmarin
16:17:15 <clown> (done)  questions? doubts?
16:17:22 * clown waves to jhernandez
16:17:24 <Magpie> hi jhernandez
16:17:27 <jhernandez> hi all!
16:17:29 <jhernandez> :]
16:17:33 <jjmarin> hi all !!!
16:17:38 <jhernandez> (and sorry for being late)
16:17:43 <jjmarin> me too :)
16:18:00 <Magpie> i think clown i need to ask about that outside meeting
16:18:07 <clown> sure
16:18:15 <joanie> I have a question (not on what was said so far, but on this topic)
16:18:30 <Magpie> ok
16:18:40 <joanie> #info Joanie is wondering if anyone knows of the top of their head when the evaluations are due?
16:18:46 <joanie> if not I can look
16:18:52 <joanie> there's been nothing said on the list
16:18:53 <clown> not me.
16:18:57 <joanie> but I know the date is approaching
16:19:04 <joanie> it's before guadec
16:19:11 <joanie> jjmarin: you happen to know?
16:19:24 <Magpie> good question
16:19:35 <Magpie> it is getting close
16:19:49 <joanie> #action Joanie will look for the date and procedure for mid-point GSoC evaluations
16:19:52 <jjmarin> I don't know neither. We should ask Marina I guess
16:19:54 <joanie> Magpie: we'll take care of it
16:19:58 <joanie> you focus on code :)
16:20:16 <joanie> anyhoo I'm done
16:20:20 <Magpie> thanks joanie
16:20:41 <joanie> i'm not done
16:20:46 <Magpie> one more
16:21:01 <joanie> Magpie: go on
16:21:03 <Magpie> i was wondering if i should go to gnome-shell meetings as well?
16:21:13 <joanie> Magpie: no
16:21:17 <joanie> i mean, you can
16:21:20 <joanie> if they have them
16:21:23 <Magpie> ok
16:21:25 <API> Magpie, afaik, they don't have gnome-shell meetings
16:21:29 <API> and in any case
16:21:31 <joanie> but I don't see what that would accomplish
16:21:37 <API> the only people working on the magnifier
16:21:43 <API> is you and clown
16:21:44 * clown worries that it would another distraction, rabbit hole, or some such.
16:21:58 * joanie nods
16:22:08 <Magpie> ok
16:22:27 <joanie> #info According to http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2013, mid-term evaluations can be submitted starting 29 july
16:22:35 <joanie> #info the deadline is 2 August
16:22:37 <Magpie> i just thought i should check
16:22:59 <Magpie> thanks joanie
16:23:06 * Magpie panic
16:23:21 * clown mild panic
16:23:22 <joanie> #info Joanie will be traveling on the 29th so she'll either submit it later, or she'll ask another team member to do so
16:23:34 <clown> I go on vacation around that time.
16:23:38 <joanie> #action Joanie will lead the coordination and filling out of evaluations
16:23:59 * clown owes joanie a hot fudge sundae.
16:24:07 <joanie> clown: because I'm heading to Europe on the 28th and wrapping up a company project, I'll be starting a bit sooner
16:24:17 <clown> sooner is better.
16:24:23 <joanie> i.e. I'd like to have it ready to submit the minute we can
16:24:26 * joanie nods
16:24:30 <joanie> I'll get on it
16:24:37 <Magpie> me too
16:24:41 <joanie> ok, I am done for realz this time
16:24:47 <joanie> sorry and thanks
16:25:24 <Magpie> i will probably need to be clear on what you expect from that
16:25:36 <joanie> Magpie: possibly nothing, but I'll let you know
16:25:43 <joanie> I think it's stuff your mentors need to do; not you
16:25:46 <Magpie> thank you
16:25:50 <joanie> you must just stay on track
16:25:52 <joanie> keep working
16:26:07 <Magpie> ok
16:26:07 <jjmarin> +1
16:26:08 <joanie> and answer questions if we have them (e.g. links to include as supporting material)
16:26:13 * API wondering if it is time for his usual "ok, more questions, doubts"?
16:26:18 * clown notices gloob lurking in the corner.
16:26:20 <joanie> API it is that time
16:26:23 <joanie> really?
16:26:26 <joanie> gloob: !!!!!
16:26:29 <gloob> o/
16:26:32 <joanie> We miss you Ale
16:26:36 <API> ok, more questions, doubts, random pings to gloob?
16:26:36 <gloob> :-(
16:26:44 <joanie> We're happy to see you
16:26:45 <gloob> I'm just lurking
16:26:45 <joanie> :)
16:26:51 <gloob> same here
16:26:52 <Magpie> gloob: ping
16:26:53 <jjmarin> ping random to gloob :)
16:27:00 <API> #topic W3C updates
16:27:03 <API> clown, ?
16:27:39 <clown> #info Due to the natioinal holidays here in Canada and the U.S,  meetings have been cancelled.
16:27:52 <clown> that is, "no news".
16:28:42 <API> clown, ok, thanks
16:28:45 <clown> wlcm
16:28:52 <API> #topic Marketing
16:28:53 <API> jjmarin, ?
16:30:01 <jjmarin> #info Juanjo sent an email to the anaconda developers to inform the about out a11y BoF in GUADEC
16:30:13 <jjmarin> no replies yet
16:30:21 <jjmarin> and nothing more from me
16:30:43 <API> well, luckly for everybody, today will be quick
16:30:46 <API> because ...
16:30:50 <API> #topic Miscellaneous time
16:30:56 <API> so, something not scheduled to mention?
16:31:03 <clown> I watned to note that...
16:31:18 <clown> I have now been assigned to work on Cloud4All
16:31:19 <joanie> yeah
16:31:26 <joanie> interesting
16:31:27 <jhernandez> clown: ftw!
16:31:29 <clown> I will be working iwth jhernandez.
16:31:37 <clown> and others.
16:31:42 <clown> But, jhernandez from this group.
16:31:44 <clown> (done)
16:32:09 <clown> jhernandez:  you flatter me  :-)
16:32:19 <Magpie> clown: this http://www.cloud4all.info ?
16:32:30 <jhernandez> heh
16:32:32 * jjmarin wonders if clown knows another jhernandez from other group
16:32:34 <clown> actually, I'm not sure, Magpie.
16:32:43 * clown looks
16:32:50 <clown> yup, that's it.
16:32:56 <Magpie> what will you do?
16:33:15 <clown> I'll be working on the linux/gnome reference implementation.
16:33:20 <clown> specfically
16:33:37 <clown> the device/sottware capabilities "discoverer".
16:33:44 <clown> *software
16:34:08 <clown> jjmarin, I thought it was the same jhernandez.
16:34:18 <clown> jhernandez, is that you?  :-)
16:34:20 <jhernandez> clown: yeah, this is our very first need I think
16:34:28 <Magpie> so you use it to find accessible software?
16:34:30 <jjmarin> :)
16:34:34 <jhernandez> clown: and yes, I still think I am jhernandez
16:34:34 <jhernandez> :P
16:34:35 <Magpie> i mean people not you
16:34:57 <jhernandez> well
16:35:01 <clown> Magpie:  people (users) have preferences...
16:35:08 <jhernandez> there is a video about the idea
16:35:24 <clown> the system is supposed to match those preferences with what is available on the system.
16:35:28 <API> fwiw, evil apinheiro talking
16:35:40 <clown> go ahead API.
16:35:46 <clown> you evil skeletor.
16:35:47 <API> miscellaneous time is not the place for a full description of cloud4all ;)
16:35:54 <clown> good point.
16:36:01 <gloob> xD
16:36:25 <Magpie> sorry API
16:36:29 <API> mainly because this point seems somewhat unprepared to me
16:36:32 <API> Magpie, no problem
16:36:35 <API> is fine to ask
16:36:47 <API> I just wanted to stop to escalate too much
16:37:02 <API> clown, jhernandez if in the future you want a item on the agenda
16:37:08 <API> ask for that, and prepare the point ;)
16:37:12 <API> but not today
16:37:12 <clown> kind of you to offer, API
16:37:14 <API> anyway
16:37:22 <clown> well it is misc. for today.
16:37:23 <API> thanks for the update and quick summary
16:37:30 <jhernandez> API: of course
16:37:39 <API> any other misc stuff to mention about?
16:37:56 <Magpie> just got my passport
16:38:37 <Magpie> so i can come to guadec and be let in now :)
16:39:00 <Magpie> the doc team asked me to help their stool
16:39:18 * clown sadly notest that "stool" has many meanings.
16:39:41 * API only knew about the bad ones, just checked on wordreference that had others
16:39:44 * jjmarin though is was a typo :)
16:39:54 <API> anyway jokes apart
16:40:06 <API> good to see that no problems with the passport
16:40:18 <Magpie> ha
16:40:19 <API> and as nobody is saying anything else
16:40:26 <API> lets finish the meeting with good news
16:40:30 <tota11y> API: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.
16:40:32 <API> ups
16:40:35 <API> #stopmeeting
16:40:36 <jhernandez> ... and go for a beer!
16:40:38 <Magpie> thanks API
16:40:40 <API> #endmeeting